Advice needed

Jultan's the most complicated to think about.

A defensive Jultan used as a light counter / zergy AE counter (it's hard to get a light/dark tanking a team's DPS, have to bring mons strong vs their elements, rare that it's light/dark heavy DPS, but they can't stop soaking AEs) is triple HP to maximize his reflect. Also helps if he's frequently being hit by defbreaks, which are most common in ADs on light. Not sure what to say is most common after that, powerful and common nat 5s like Vanessa and Ritesh are spread around the elements. He's also viable on triple revenge, as his 1st is obscenely annoying (and doubly so if you're using him on offense semi-frequently to tank, where you're actually in control of whether revenges can go off). He should have at least a revenge set either way. His most common three builds are Spd/HP/HP, HP/CD/HP and HP/HP/HP, but since he's primarily a PVP mon, it really is a question more of usage than what's actually best. The reason for the Spd/HP/HP build is not so much for defbreak uptime as it is for defbreak positioning, it depends on the spds of your most commonly used DPS. If you lean heavily on one in particular and it's a speed demon, it may be very hard to get Jultan faster than them. Since he doesn't scale off spd, it's a lot harder to rationalize jacking his spd up past Theomars or Hwa. That being said, you really want your defbreak speedmatched with your DPS, whether or not it's on defense and auto. On offense, you get out of sync and fucked by Veromos repeatedly cutting in between your hits, or missing holes in immunity, and on defense the same thing happens but the player's further manipulating it ATBing/slowing/stunning.

I've really wanted Jultan, and since he's fairly easy to counter on AD if you're not blindly sailing in (admittedly, unlike some mons, I strongly consider who I bring beforehand because he can really ruin your life if you run in with the wrong team), I'd worry more about his usage on offense. I'd be tempted to triple HP and triple revenge him because I'd most likely use him as a hard light/zerg counter. If I'm bringing a dedicated tank that can also defbreak, they tend to fall into slot 3 of my 4 slots, 1 being a healer, 2 being a cleanse/immunity, 3 being a dedicated tank, offhealer, or other support, ideally with defbreak if it isn't present and easily appliable, and 4 being my DPS (zergy if it's safe, tanky if someone's rogue and they're at risk). Jultan could easily fall into the tanky DPS slot, but the light/zerg counter is a more useful toolkit option. He'd function okay on ADs built like that, still would do some damage on his burst, reflects a lot of damage, hard to get rid of, applies defbreaks, but his best AD build is likely vio/revenge HP/CD/HP, won't be as useful triple HP triple revenge on AD. He's also viable in the rage build you mentioned, but I think it's weaker than violent for Jultan as a DPS. Defbreak on his 1 and the short 3-turn CD pushes him more towards vio than rage to me. On defense it's not even close because of violent's AI proc rate and unpredictability winning fights.

Darion's actually not a tank improvement, less than 1k hp above Bella and like 130 less defense, Bella would take less damage in identical runes. Also doesn't benefit from his own passive, his brother Jubelle is significantly tankier with his silly crit reduction. There's also the matter of his damage on hp/cd/hp vs triple HP and whether he can survive like that. He's a lot scarier, yes, but also more easy to gank, but then he doesn't contribute damage the same way, and really needs violent to do any appreciable DPS. I don't have the violent runes still for Bella, so he's on swift/focus and has just under 26k paperdoll but almost 1400 def because I want hp/hp/def (since Bella is taking hits so often), and it's... noticeable. If you aren't defbroken, def/hp/hp is better than triple HP, I've done the same thing to my Chasun since she's usually tanking for me. Of course, Bella could be silly fast if I rearranged and went Spd/HP/HP and maintained the same substats, just changing my primaries (except the +9spd I lose on my 2, but I don't have spd on 4, so pretend I just gain the 40 spd outright). I'm at 191spd atm, so a spd rune would shove me past 230, which would be... unexpected, I suppose.

The big thing with Darion is he's good on revenge, and while Bella's good with a revenge set, Bella has a Nemesis option depending on what you're doing. Nemesis on healers is a very strong anti-lushen (or zerg in general) deterrent because you increase your likelihood of stealing a turn or at least being able to quickly respond with a heal. It's one of the ways people were designing anti-Lushen defenses, but it helps against more than just Lushen. That's also why it's so important for double Lushens to be like 1 spd apart. The main thing about making a light tank for the purpose of being brought in as a light tank is you rarely see teams with more than a single Veromos or Jubelle or Jultan. My light tank is Groggo because 2 of the 3 most common dark mons on defenses defbreak, and Groggo self-immunities while being very very very resistant to defbreak->gank team ordering. Darion can easily die to that kinda stuff, as can Bella. Yolo Veromos, Bella can handle as well as Darion, and it's a matter of whether Bella's defbreak/sieze/heal+atb is more useful than Darion's group dmg reduction (besides himself) defbreak and atkbreak are more useful, and I think Bella's more useful in most circumstances. I would say Darion's a lower priority, though he's used in some HoHB3 comps to help guard against being gibbed, particularly when the team's lacking defbreak otherwise.

The 3 big wind tanks are Ramagos, Chasun and Ermeda, and 1 is obviously not farmable. Others can through sheer stats, but they are actually built for it. Ramagos because he benefits from being hit, Ermeda because it's a magnet that has an enormous built-in dmg reduction (Ermeda is by FAR the safest of the 3 tanks, just the least self-sufficient by a significant margin), Chasun because she's guaranteed to have heal support and can 100% heal herself very, very easily, through anything besides hard CC, and has innate resistance helping. Fortunately it's very easy to build Ramagos, triple HP and either vampire or just some combo of nemesis/energy/endure runes, it's really a waste of Violent runes to try to mitigate against him getting stuck in CCs or be able to surprise proc clean shots (that's a lot better on ADs, and better is used very loosely there, as Ramagos is not at all scary on ADs once people broaden their toolkits a bit, he's like a Rina in that he's ignorable, except blindly entering with a bad comp might not kill a Rina whereas Ramagos is pretty dicked against 4 mons even if he can kill one).

Chloe tends to be tankyish just because her survival stats come after speed, but Arnold will be a bigger wall. He just doesn't have anything that makes him special tanking besides base stats (11.7k hp + 593def is a very decent combination), though his AE atk break and being able to burstheal are handy. Tanking with him likely means Despair, Violent is more for AD use and I'm very much not a fan of Arnold on ADs. He's very behind the times, I cannot honestly say the last time I've ever come close to losing to one. Damage scaling from atk buffs and defbreaks just goes miles and miles past his extortion damage, and extortion is MUCH better utilized manually. He's way better on offense than defense. I'd go triple HP despair/whatever. I mentioned Chloe as worth working on, just not for tanking. She has very strong defensive stats, provides healing+invinc+immunity, but her best use is being built for speed, and that sometimes means sacrificing other stats at the spd altar. She is nowhere CLOSE to overrated, she's just gimmicky. Show me another mon that enables blindly zerging wings at Guardian level in minutes (I mean for all of them, not minutes per wing). Technically Lushen was responsible for two shifts in the meta (fire heavy and anti-AE-zerg, whether or not the anti-AE is also fire, sometimes they're intentionally not to be Lushen traps), but Chloe is why it works. Go in, be super fast and on will runes, pop immunity+invincibility - which is important, invinc mobs can still be CC'd - watch enemy do nothing as long as you didn't bumble into Chiwu and Praha - and then alpha them on turn 1 when you double Amp. Do this without Chloe and you don't always win. If Bernard or Tyron or Megan or whoever you're bringing to help you with your turns fails in their job, they die. Will runes and Tyron can't freeze (or misses his freeze), all 3 could simply be too slow. Chloe may be slower than another Chloe, but it's hard to be slow enough that she loses to whoever a faster Megan or Bernard or something atb-buffs.

Is her healing throughput good, no, although a 260spd Chloe gets to that 3turn CD heal awfully fast. It's just nothing like Ariel or Praha or Chasun. Is her immunity good, yes in that it's immunity, no in that it PALES compared to the best one, Velajuel. Vela is 3 turn duration on a 4 turn CD that also cleanses and ATBs. Chloe is a 6 turn CD on a 2 turn duration that doesn't cleanse. It's still immunity, so it's still nice, but it's strong because of invincibility. The invinc helps screw over enemy zerg attempts, but it's best used on offense, where you manually determine when you're 100% safe (and you're 100% safe so long as you don't blindly attack dispellers). Since the real endgame is ToA hard and PVP, she's the best nat4 in the game because no other nat 4 affects one or the other so strongly. Baretta carries ToA on normal and hard, normal more on speedy despair and hard more on speedy violent, Chasun goes everywhere, but no one breaks one element of the game so much, and that's how much Chloe enables very, very, VERY fast wing clearing, and that's what changes dynamics as you get into C2, C3, and then especially Guardian. It's not whether you can beat people, it's whether you can quickly so you can keep spending wings to progress. Guardian level, people actually will invest crystals to refresh wings, it's 100 crystals per tier so 3 refreshes of wings that enable you to hit a higher tier STILL nets you crystals + the glory from said fights, and making it into G1 from C3 means you get a L/D nat 3 you may be missing, so there's extra worth in spending crystals there. Plus it's just a matter of dickwaving, only 300 people have to worry about Guardian anyway (until they change that to a %, if they ever do, TBH it's a bit silly with a flexible population to have all those guardian tiers not be a %).

She's not overrated, again, she's just narrow in terms of why she's broken. If you built her hp/hp/defense (which is a more ideal tank build than triple HP, again, though mons that scale off HP like Arnold are in a bit of a bind because of that), she's easily comparable or better to Arnold at it, but you're wasting Chloe's runes like that. You still want her as tanky as possible, but it's perfectly viable to only have 1 Chloe and have her with flat atk or flat def on 4/6 because they had more spd because you're only using her to get the 1st turn and throw up fanatic on offense. 95%+ effectiveness compared to a Chloe with actual defensives in that regard, those games are usually won or lost on the alpha volley. If you try to use her in PVE, then yeah, her real benefit is using fanatic in ToA to help speed up zerg runs, but that's a limited use. If she doesn't feel useful to you, it's because yours is very slow. 200 spd on her is slow, and yours isn't at 200 yet, Chloe is 111 base so a 6 star spd + swift already puts her at 180ish spd and that's with no assumed substats. A blue 6 star rune that hits spd twice has a significant amount, can have 15-16 or so. 15x5 plus that 180 throws her up to 255, and that's assuming blue runes (albeit ones that hit the criteria of having spd and winning two 50/50 rolls). When you get into purple/orange runes that hit spd every time, you get very, very fast. Until you have a team that can basically win if they're allowed to all go together, she isn't as strong. Double Lushen is used because it doesn't care about will/immunity runes and can get atk+crit buffs. Runing for 70% crit is a lot of extra critd substats you have room for, and if your team needed Galleon to atk+defbreak (or just aedefbreak from other mons, but if you scale off atk, then you're missing both atk AND crit buffs), you're still vulnerable to immunity, poorly timed cleanses, will runes if they're slower than your DPS, resists. I can understand her not feeling strong to you based on who you have, but a couple popular variants of the lushen comps for people without 2x Lushen are Chloe/Copper/Copper/Randy and Chloe/Katarina/Katarina/Sieq or Aquila. Additionally, unlike the Lushen or Copper teams, it basically HAS to be Chloe for Katarina, good luck getting Pontos or Laima to AE invinc instead.

Rina and Chloe have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Not being a fan of Chloe is flat wrong, you just don't have a full toolset to use her (although Chloe+Kat+someone in GW is perfectly viable without needing a second copy of her, and anyone can do double Copper if you save the ones you get, I've gotten plenty and I haven't gone for premium packs in a very long time). Epikion priest doesn't matter, what matters is kit, and they're both defined by 1 thing (Rina's passive and fanatic). Why one earth would you say you expect more from a tank than just sitting there and watching the fight. If it's a generic mon that just is absorbing hits as best they can, yes, you want them to do something else. Bella soaking dark hits because I have 3 defensive runes without other things, I'd want more. Bella provides defbreak, ST dispel and an atb heal, so I'm happy. Rina has minor healing, but Rina has directly superior defensive abilities, Rina *IS* providing more than just sitting there. Rina is actively mitigating enormous mounds of damage, and it's implied you're bringing Rina against heavy Wind, so you're completely neutering the threat level you're facing. I'm using a Kernodon, and I built Kernodon for hp/defense ONLY, I care 0 about any other stats, I just want a pure wall. It's not as common to need that vs wind, but I saw a couple people lose to a super zergy double wind DPS in GW that I ran the fuck over because Kernodon wasn't remotely fazed by it. Rina does the same thing. You would want the skillups on the shield, but she would still be usable without them.

Fedora sucks. He would take SO MUCH more damage than Rina or Kernodon. I've had one for at least 6 months, never remotely close to building him, even after the buffs. His base defensives are okay, albeit worse than Chloe, but he doesn't have anything that makes him a tank. He can get that single turn of death ward, but it's kind of assumed you're tanking sustained damage over a prolonged period, so what is he supposed to do those other turns, and it's another of those 2 on / 4 off CDs, and Chloe's fanatic is almost directly superior, especially when she's going to be so, so much faster. When you're picking a specialized tank, you want someone that either 1) wants to be hit, or 2) is good at being hit, and good needs to be more than 'decent base stats' or 'the model is heavily modeled'. Does Fedora bring more to a group than Kernodon, yes, group cleanse+immunity+ward and still can defbreak like the lizard, though neither are reliable, he has a 3 turn CD and Kernodon has crappy % chances. But when you're bringing a tank to counter a team's DPS, you want them to be safe, and the ones that have to sit there and watch the fight tend to be the ones that are specially built to take that beating. The ones that have more options tend to be tradeoffs. Ramagos takes way way WAAAAAAAAAAY more damage than Ermeda, even if you assume no defbuff for Ermeda and assume Ramagos mostly has his on, because 50% reduction is just too much. But then Ramagos can go apeshit and kill someone. Does that mean 1 is always the right answer, no. Zergier a team is, the riskier Ramagos is. 45k hp can die to Perna in one round. My Chasun has almost 1300 base defense and a Perna killed her from full with significant overkill. Ermeda could have potentially lived. My Kernodon has 1670def and ~20khp with +12 runes and they're not particularly good runes, just stuff I had laying around. Double his HP total vs wind, in terms of effective HP. 40k hp and 1670def, base, before towers and defbuffs or anything, with mediocre +12 runes. Imagine +15 with better subs, focusing purely on def/hp, and you increasingly are at the point where violent procs (admittedly rarer on wind DPS than rage) aren't enough to kill, and that type of safety means you took your PVP consistency and shoved it up to basically 100% if you're countercomping that hard.

You're focusing on slot diversity when you're ignoring being so good at 1 specific thing, being a wall, means you CAN'T LOSE. If you bring Rina to a team that literally cannot break her shield, you CAN'T LOSE. What more could you ask for? No monster can reach that level of silliness, but Rina's probably the closest to literally unkillable, followed by the mons that take 50% less damage from an element. Camilla is somewhat comparable, but the way Rina's shield works, she can take a battering from 10 straight rounds a lot better than Camilla, Camilla is much, much more similar to a Kernodon that is more like 50% blanket dmg reduction instead of just wind (it's just likely that only wind is hitting her). She's still impressively tanky, if someone has 2 Camillas (because I'm not a fan of tankmilla if you only have 1, kinda wasting Camilla, who can go very yolo and still be pretty safe, which is an invaluable thing) and builds one super tankmilla, like hp/hp/def, she's... very, very hard to get rid of. She's probably the best all-around tank in the game, though there are cases where she'd die and Rina wouldn't, there are just cases where Rina would die and she wouldn't. The AI isn't smart enough to plan this, and you could build around trying to stop it, but Rina is vulnerable to defbreak and very big hits, and Camilla is specifically built to be strong vs that between 100% crit dmg suppression and shedding debuffs. Camilla and Rina would still be usable interchangeably, but if I got Camilla, it would basically 100% replace Kernodon *if* built tanky (which I wouldn't if I only had 1 copy, again).

Anyway, back to Fedora. His skill set is NOT way better than Rina. Lumi is at least a better option, she can fully heal herself and very strong overall defensives (almost 13k and 700 base) and can skill reset and fully heal (albeit a shitty CD). While you want specialized skills over base stats, having extremely high ones at least helps. She's still not as good at being a pure wall as Kernodon or Rina against wind, and while there's utility in her reset that is a definite reason to bring her against some teams, I can't say I would build a Lumi if I pulled her. That made me check my storage because I wasn't sure I DIDN'T have her. She's fairly pidgeonholed into being brought someplace where 1) you need a water healer and 2) you need a skill reset, and I mean those 2 things together. She's definitely safe against random hits, but if I was making tanks for tanking purposes, I'd go for Rina or Kernodon. If you have her tanking a bunch of elements instead of pure wind, she'd overall probably outdo Kernodon if built completely defensively. Rina, it'd depend on the comp and how they'd be doing the damage.

Tetra is... pretty bad, not sure why you considered her. I have her, instant storage. AE sleep is meh and a 5 turn CD if skilled, shields aren't actually that large (Acasis' shield is given all sorts of attention because it also crit suppresses and people tend to experience it from the perspective of the GB10 giant, who hits for NOTHING compared to a player), and it's only 1 target being dispelled. She's almost inherently going to be built safe against things like untanked Veromoses, but nowhere in the ballpark of being built as a dedicated tank.

Being able to climb into a ranking is a red herring, it means absolutely nothing. I've pushed into guardian just to see the red star (and to practice against harder defenses). You just use wings more than you get hit and boom. If it's midweek, people that don't love PVP and don't have lolzergzergzerg perfect 2x Lushens (or, more specifically, have that kind of a team AND it's good enough to go up against all the teams built specifically to stop assholes from doing it) are pretty inactive. It's kinda painful to use wings at C2+, there's obviously a big change from fighter to C1, but a much bigger change C2-guardian. Teams are built both scarier and more resilient, matches tend to take longer or take more time determining how you're safely countercomping since no one wants to waste wings or, more relevantly, have an embarrassing 'defense success' message in your honor. That's one of the reasons the Lushen teams were created. It's not that they can't win otherwise, it's that it's FASTER, and it's not just because you need to hit faster than being hit in rush hours (and frankly, if you're high enough, you need to be winning on D too, hits would outpace your wing spending even if infinitely refreshing, guardians get hit... a... lot). Your sanity wants the speed. It's why I sit in fighter until fridays or early saturdays and push back up to C2. If I'm in fighter, my AD will push me into mid C1 overnight since people tend to try to list clear and obviously don't know where I belong. Using wings in C2 takes so much longer, I can blindly zerg fighter with a lot of various comps without changing between fights.

Vero/Jultan/Bella/Verde is okay. Vero/Bella/twotankymonsters can mean two different things. Briand does shit damage, Arnold is only dangerous with bad luck where a defbreak aims his extort at a bad time. Both can be annoying with an AD's stupid luck on despairs. Chloe is just defensive, teams using Vero+Bella+Chloe almost don't matter what the 4th is, that means 1 threat and 1 partial (Veromos) threat. Vero/Bella/Darion means you have two defbreaks at 2 different speeds and 2 partial threats, so if the 4th is a tanky DPS that ALSO is some level of a threat, then that's significantly scarier. Violent Darions can easily do 20k in a round, Veromos with enough spd and critd also does surprising damage. Some people have built spd/cd/hp Veromoses that hit like freight trains, it's just that they're super squishy. Think about how hard Theomars hits, and realize all Ifrits have the same skill 1st skill.

You are correct in that very tanky teams are easy to beat. Some people leave the same AD up all week. Tankier teams do better during rush hours in that people don't have time to waste, and if they think your team will take too long, they'll skip it. If someone has enough zerg or they're safe enough (or wing restricted) that they just want to spend some wings for padding or they have more than enough time, it doesn't REALLY take that long to beat tankier teams, even 2-3 rezzer teams. Safer a team is, more wiggle room you have with your comp, which makes each kill faster. That also is why you can fight your way higher than you can maintain, generic tanky defenses suck. Global is a lot easier than Asia in that regard, there are tons of teams in C1 that are just some lazy, shitty overly-defensive nonsense that will NEVER, ever win without obscene luck. However, the squishier and more dangerous your team is, the more likely you're going to be hit, faster games and easier to Lushen (or just flat out zerg other ways). If you don't have immunity, AE defbreakers can be a thing, too, like Chloe/Galleon/whatever. My girlfriend pulled a Teshar, 415% dmg multiplier on an AE doesn't seem THAT crazy until you notice the 1098 atk, so it's more like a 550%+ on a more normal atk level, some of those teams can hit for 25-30k or more on EVERY mon with TWO monsters. It's just killed by bad timing on Vero cleanses or immunity, but Vero is fast, so it's not that uncommon for no immunity buff to mean Vero takes his turn, their mons sit in fanatic, and then defbreak->ae->ae loluded, game is over in about 15 seconds.

Vero/Bella/Jultan/Verde isn't bad, aggressive, 2 defbreaks on 2 elements (and both light/dark so without a light and a dark mon, at least 1 can go literally anywhere, which is the Theomars type of threat you want). Your Verde is the weak link in that he's likely target #1, and while he's on revenge, I don't think he's going to get a chance to revenge, and he's quite slow. It's harder to be fast without the extra boost from swift, yes, but I don't think a 159spd Verde is worth using, he'll just die and push you to 3v4, and he might not even get to attack. Theomars could easily oneshot him and is probably faster. Mine is using ehh runes and he's faster, and mine is atk/cd/atk violent, not on swift or using spd on 2. Very few things die before Verde. I could honestly see Vero/Bella/Jultan/Chloe performing better just because of your Verde's runes, not that Chloe's are good atm, but hers will be easier to improve, getting good violent/revenge runes sucks. Vero/Bella/Jultan/Arnold wouldn't scare me, though it wouldn't be terrible as long as Arnold was just baaaarely slower than Jultan so you could occasionally get that burst->burst going, Vero might line up as he turnlaps them. Draco is great on defenses but he needs really nice runes to shine. He needs to be tanky so he isn't killed but needs to be fast, too. I built mine to AE break for slower mons, so mine is slow atm, and a perfectly reasonable choice for using only on offense (you want your breaks to be the speed of your DPS, so normal rune advice goes out the window), but an AD one wants tanky AND speed. Once he's super tanky and 180-200spd, he's a nightmare whether on despair or violent, so disruptive. Orion, too, different ways.

Those are really your options: Vero/Bella/Jultan + Arnold/Chloe/Draco/Verde, I don't think I'd consider any other mon you have at 5 or 6 with those 3. Strongest would depend on their runes, none are conq-level atm. I think the Verde team is most likely to be attacked but also the most likely to win, Verdehile teams can kinda... 'get away' from you, and then you watch this slew of turns as you start going 'hey, hey, HEY, STOP. OKAY, no, STOP, WHAT THE FUCK." It's like the time I ignored a Rica and that bitch took 7 fucking turns in a row. Stupid OGs, so mediocre and then occasionally RNG out the ass. For Chloe vs Draco, honestly, just changes team dynamics. Chloe potentially stronger in the rush hours, and draco's AE break doesn't matter much with Jultan + Bella both going. He sustains immunity better than her though, he turnprocs a lot. Arnold would be okay, and has the benefit of being the only mon of the 3 you have sitting at 5 (since Verde is already 6 and, regardless, I mean, you're working on him anyway, Verde is god) with that other purpose, the tanky thing. He's not as specialized as some of the others, but there aren't that many specialized fire tanks. Not sure why water has so many. The Neostone Fighter is actually almost in Ramagos territory, just a lot more aggressive, but that's not the same thing as the overly-defensive mons built to try to guarantee safety.

I don't think you'll go wrong choosing any of those 4, but they'll need rune improvements. I don't think Chloe synergizes well with Vero and Bella's implied speeds. At least 2 slower mons tend to function better with her, but a backup heal and the RNG of fanatic help stall. I don't think Draco's as valuable as he otherwise would be either. Arnold/Verde are probably the best you can do atm, but I'm not thrilled with either choice, Verde needs to be super fast to get the team rolling (and still snipe-vulnerable), and Arnold just.. isn't that scary. Arnold will perform better than your Verde in your Verde's current runes though, I think, and you'll have someone you can bring to tank water when you need (depends on team comp, I stalled on making him because if you're using wind, any non-wind can be tanking, there isn't really an anti-water specialist, but sometimes I needed fire specifically, like a water/fire team where I couldn't safely bring wind so I had to bring water/fire so they'd leave my water alone, or water/fire/wind to split their water/fire and still leave my water alone).

There'll be options to improve in the future, it at least should be able to hold C1. If you're curious what I'd do to Veromos/Bella/Jultan/Arnold:

Veromos/Groggo/Theomars/Chasun, and frankly, I'm not thrilled with the Vero choice because of the Bella pointing shit at my Veromos. Other than that, Vero+Jultan smash their heads against Groggo, who sits there immunity-soaking defbreaks and taking negligible damage, Chasun safely draws off fire and she's very safe vs Arnold in case of a stunned round, and Groggo's triple def+vamp and can easily live a round as well, so I'm okay with 1 healer. Theo is free to run wild, no one 'sees' him, Arnold will never hit him unless low hp even if revenge-broken, and endure protects against revenge-defbreaks. Biggest fear by far is the Bella being slower than my Veromos and defbreaking me into a gank. If Bella is faster than my Veromos, and Vero keeps going between him and the other DPS, I basically can't lose. Without Groggo, it's dicier, as Groggo is WAY safer than Darion or Bella or Ahman, who are the only light mons anyone can have besides Teon and whatever RNG provides you a couple times / month. I think it's overall functional enough to work. For AD purposes, this team is scarier with the first 3 on violent, Arnold is a wash. Despair RNG sucks, unexpected extortionts from procs sucks too. Despair from him and Veromos' stomping together can be nasty, and Jultan ST stuns potentially too, might go Despair. Also sucks in that a lot of people like to ride Chasun's ass, and it's pretty easy to rationalize bringing her here to split off the extort and heal through the two healblocks, so you could get real lucky there with Arnold (when he isn't hitting defbroken targets).