Epic List of GW Counters

Any ideas on "Chasun" and these "Monkey kings"? Is it allowed to say:"I despise them!!!!!!

Chasun - splitting damage. Her AE heal sucks compared to her single target, and she cares more about herself than someone else. If a group is tanky, splitting damage will cause her - at some point - to waste her blossoms in one of two ways. Pretend it's a GW. If 2 people are at half health and one's full, she will use the full health one to heal herself over trying to fix the other person. If everyone's half health, she'll blossom and basically just throw a turn away (though she may strongly ATB herself). If there's someone significantly squishier, then you throw this out the window since you can just gank that person in front of her, doesn't matter that it's Chasun.

Chasun can be weak to ATBing if the team allows Hwa or Baretta to exist, more-so Hwa, and they do better if fast, but that doesn't always work depending on comp. If an enemy DPS can see her (including bruisers), Hwa's unsafe to bring. Veromos or Darion or monkeys or monks can all run her over, and anyone with an AE or revenge can be a problem (especially if a lucky Ritesh AE defense breaks and lets an otherwise-tanked mon see her).

Monkey Kings depend on which one. Water no one uses, he has no special passive, he's just an attacker with decent stats since he's a nat 5. Wind/Fire are used because of their strong passives. For Wind, you have to be even more careful about bringing a squish, bruiser DPS are much better. If he's lucky and doesn't glance, he can still really hurt a fire DPS that gets retaliated, and he's often on revenge too. Immunity isn't a bad idea, because you can get into REAL bad luck and manage to get a chain of retaliation stuns. I tend to kill him very early.

Fire MK is much easier to deal with, since you can flat out ignore him. No reason to power him up unless you plan on ganking him, but I would not try to kill unless you do an HP check. If he's full yolo, then he's still very squishy, but if he's tanky, his damage will suck unless you hit him. Just be careful with AEs like Vero's stomp, especially since he's CC-immune. You can get into trouble if you're tanking him with wind healer since he'll both stun and defbreak, and basically guaranteed to be on violent, but he's not high threat for damage unless yolo (in which case you can gank him). My preferred build for both is hybrid. Neither scale off hp or defense, but hp/critd/atk is a very common build. Full tank means they'll hit for nothing, full yolo means too easy to kill.

People don't ignore Tesarion, it's just that he's useless everywhere except PVP (if someone had all nat 3s, sure, he'd do okay as a ST DPS, but I see no practical reason someone would want him in PVE). It's hard to rationalize pvp 6s if you have PVE content remaining (except ToA hard). Once you've made him, he completely neuters plenty of scary mons, though I don't think some passives are scary enough to warrant his presence. Monkeys, for example, I wouldn't bring Tesarion unless there was another. Camilla same thing unless someone else there's also on passives. Passives like Molly or Leo (if the team is actually built around him, otherwise you can use Leo to your advantage if the person used it poorly and actually WANT Leo alive) or Zeratu are more game-changing. An exception would be if you think someone made a Rina-level Camilla or something, and the comp you'd bring couldn't handle that type of mon (or Rina herself if it's c3+ runed, that's been fotm for people trying to stall for time in arena during rush hours past month or so, just to make people zerging not want to rearrange their team). Most GW Camillas are yolo or hybrids. HP/critd/atk is very common on her, and that's more than killable by a regular DPS without turning off her passive.